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PostSubject: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 6:38 pm

Alright guys, we're going to be a lot stricter about our no korean policy.... I mistranslated the whole notes, and all but with the fact they even changed the terms now of all of a sudden, it's a good idea to tighten our security on certain rules and what not.....

In short, Korean interaction will not be tolerated at all. In any manner.

Astre wrote:
What the patch notes on the main site say are just some notes about the revised Privacy Policy.
They're upping the security of user's private information and whatnot.
Protecting user accounts from destruction of their account contents and/or improper use of the private information.
So, with these being included in their newly revised Privacy Policy, hackers and phishing networks directly break their Terms of Service and users are able to report this.
And, of course, any suspicious activity that they think has been going on on their accounts.

Now, in the new Terms of Service, there's a whole lot of stuff about registration for new members. Well, not that much.

But, anyways, basically there's going to be a new registration process.
The "Quick Join" process that most of us are accustomed to WILL still exist.
However, there's been an additional verification process for the new Korean law where users under the age of 16 (or was it 14..?) cannot be online between the hours of 12AM - 6AM (Korean time).
In Eastern Standard Time, that is from 10AM - 4PM.
No phone verification or whatever like Nexon where it's practically impossible to register an account, just a simple check to see if the KSSN registered to your account is over the age of 14.

Also included in the new Terms of Service: Logging of IP addresses, cookies, visit dates, billing records, previous misconduct.
No, Joymax/IO Entertainment are NOT constantly logging your IP address and other personal information, BUT it DOES say that they MAY or MAY NOT log this information from your account.

As previously stated, users may report suspicious activity that they think has been going on with their accounts, so the aforementioned logging of IP addresses and cookies and whatnot is, most likely, what they implemented to enforce the security against hackers.


They are NOT going to log the IP address of an account to ban foreigners.
Although, there is (and always has been) the chance that one may get banned from the game for being foreign.
However, this new Privacy Policy is NOT addressing foreigners on KLS.
Rather, it's more about the security of users' personal information from hackers and phishing networks.


So, in conclusion, I'm NOT saying we'll never get banned.
I'm just saying that this revision of their Privacy Policy is for the protection of the users from hackers, etc.
However, as security measures for our group and other English-speaking foreign members on KLS, I suggest you be very cautious.
Especially when it comes to Koreans.
They may report you because your use of the "magic number" is a violation of identity theft and, ultimately, KLS' Privacy Policy and ToS.
Again, Koreans were ALWAYS able to do that to us and we've ALWAYS had a chance of being banned from this game for being foreign and that hasn't changed.
But, just in case, just be VERY cautious and wary.

Credits to Astre for properly translating this.


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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 7:21 pm

Optimism..screw that...lol

But seriously would be sad if they did do a mega ban.

All of you would just...fade away from memory. It's happening now. Who the heck is..Dawn..Dana...Zooka..Polo...Astre...who are you people!?
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 7:33 pm

Chibij wrote:
Optimism..screw that...lol

But seriously would be sad if they did do a mega ban.

All of you would just...fade away from memory. It's happening now. Who the heck is..Dawn..Dana...Zooka..Polo...Astre...who are you people!?

-was not mentioned in the missing memory-

-means chibi remembers me-

Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 7:34 pm

Adelvos wrote:
Chibij wrote:
Optimism..screw that...lol

But seriously would be sad if they did do a mega ban.

All of you would just...fade away from memory. It's happening now. Who the heck is..Dawn..Dana...Zooka..Polo...Astre...who are you people!?

-was not mentioned in the missing memory-

-means chibi remembers me-

Very Happy

WHO THE HECK ARE YOU!? O_O;
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 9:41 pm

prox prox but also we can go to jap lost saga????????
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 9:49 pm

What about all the mercs Dawn bought ! .. All that money wasted :C
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 9:58 pm

blazesboy wrote:
prox prox but also we can go to jap lost saga????????
Taiwan LS... Which is farther behind than NA.......

Japanese lost saga (UNFORTUNATELY =.=) is incredibly hard to get on. Proxies no longer work. Which sucks, cause I'd be able to translate the updates faster than KLS.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:09 pm

Well, we got good news and bad news...

Good news is, we can still log on.. Bad news.

IO Entertainment, Joymax, and WeMade representatives now hold the right to ban us for our IP addresses, or even speaking English. Which in short means, that the policy we have of KRs is being put to extreme measures now.

The terms of service have changed, and we have practically no privacy now. Logs now can be used against us, and store IP Address, as well as time, and username.

In short... this patch might just seal our fates on the KRLS server.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:18 pm

Well, looks like Skype seems useful for this.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:19 pm

Skype's a bad move also, because latency reports and Skype would increase your latency.. No matter what you do, you're in danger. We'll just stick to our normal group ways, and avoid to get KR attention.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:22 pm

How about HQ'ing?
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:26 pm

Stay the hell away from koreans, PERIOD. Do not go in their HQs, DO NOT TALK TO THEM, DO NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THEM.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:28 pm

No, I meant like can we still hang out in the HQ's and Plazas like with the PW and stuff?
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:29 pm

Stick with other English players, or the group if you're with us... Hell actually, you're best just waiting until you can join us... Because they might go sniffing buddy lists and crap.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:32 pm

I see, I'll take the option to wait until you can let me join the group. Thanks for the info.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:34 pm

Informing is what I do, I'm just sad and sorry that it came to this... apparently I wasn't good enough at keeping the scum of NALS off KLS.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 10:51 pm

Dawn wrote:
Informing is what I do, I'm just sad and sorry that it came to this... apparently I wasn't good enough at keeping the scum of NALS off KLS.

Nothing anyone could've done could've prevented it from happening eventually.

The only thing that could stop it is a ban in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 11:21 pm

This...makes me legit scared..

So what...they can track chat logs...they can check IPs...

We can't chat anymore nor can we know for sure if something will happen....I scared..so scared..
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyWed Nov 09, 2011 12:03 am

None of this is true at all.

I've read over the new security measure notes and also the new ToS.


I'm making a thread about it on my forums.
I'll post a link in a bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyWed Nov 09, 2011 12:23 am

I'm pretty sure I saw in there that there was IP logs now.... though, 'not chatting' is ridiculous, I wasn't going to go with that anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyWed Nov 09, 2011 12:46 am

Dawn wrote:
I'm pretty sure I saw in there that there was IP logs now.... though, 'not chatting' is ridiculous, I wasn't going to go with that anyways.

Yes, I've addressed it in my topic.

Here is the link.

It is a GIANT wall of text, but it is very important information.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyWed Nov 09, 2011 12:52 am

And you have it blocked off from guest view again.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyWed Nov 09, 2011 12:52 am

Astre..make it guest viewable please?
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyWed Nov 09, 2011 12:53 am

God dammit! Okay, let me change that. Roflmao.
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PostSubject: Re: Maintenance November 8th   Maintenance November 8th EmptyWed Nov 09, 2011 12:54 am

Just now changed it so give it a couple.
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